U-lite Linux

Best regards! so usefull post..bwin

Why did Canonical's Lawyers state that the ability to name the distro something similar to their distro does not exist ? Seriously , while Lawyers claim that clear communications benefit all , the Lawyers constantly choose obfuscatory language . They meant may and not 'can' . Look at any typical Collegiate Dictionary under the verb can , you will find the ability meaning listed before any permission meaning , those late numbered meanings get cut off entirely in the shorter dictionaries . Collegiate does not mean standard , those works list extra definitions for eggheads and many folks lack the skill to use a Collegiate accurately . Did the brains of the English Speaking World fall so far that they can't properly interpret ordered lists at all ? I've noticed an inability to prioritize and intense innumeracy around me that evidences over reliance on law school slang . Innumeracy etc. might actually help Law Grads succeed at getting clients but letting their worst habits spread constitutes an act of war against thought in the English Speaking World . Using the only available VALID tools , Shannon Entropy and the rest of communication theory from the laws of physics , one can prove the inferiority of the lawyers' habit . YES , I have noticed innumeracy so gross that it constitutes functional illiteracy too , in many " English Teachers " . Many of them seem to mistake the publishing house vernacular in their classrooms , entirely devoted to selling print , for Communicative Proper English .

Canonical Ltd has no right to put additional restrictions on software that was licensed under the GNU GPL. By applying a trademark to the program, they are placing a restriction on who can or cannot even modify or distribute Ubuntu. In fact, according to the GNU GPL, they can lose their rights to use the Debian Linux Source Code by placing additional restrictions on the software.

Canonical Ltd is violating the Linux Source Software rights in an attempt to create a business empire out of something that is suppose to be free.

GNU GPL is all about placing no restrictions on the software...

Read through the GNU GPL, replace the word "program" with "Ubuntu" and you'll plainly see the violation!

They can call the GNU GPL software Ubuntu but they can't Trademark and place restrictions on that software.

How about Libuntu?

I am a very proud ubuntu user, but i think that's a stupid attitude of Canonical. The *buntu on the name only resembles on the base of the system. Canonical should be happy the their system is being chosen be so many developers to be based upon it and stop bugging them.

Besides that, it is a lot easier to search for a certain variation of a distro if the names are similar. We should open a bug on Launchpad asking for them to stop doing it.

First:

I don't think there is anything wrong with canonical wanting to protect their brand. Thats business. The only thing they are asking is that the name be changed, and they're asking pretty courteously. Whats the problem with that?

Second:

I'd suggest something elegant and evocative, but still sticking to the theme of lite/light.

Scintillant, for instance.

Time to put this matter to a vote, methinks.

You should change it to Ooboontoo Lite, to be spiteful. :P

Bird Lite : Cuculus canorus

Se si cambiasse l'interfaccia a Lxde facendola diventare più ubuntu friendly si potrebbe mantenere il cordone ombelicale che lo lega al progetto major senza pero' intaccare la politica del trademark.

Comunque, non so come aiutarti per l'impresa.
Lo farei molto volentieri.

Sono sul forum di Ubuntu/italia sotto il nick VincentAston

First, I'm not from Canonical, I'm an ubuntu user, one admin of the Ubuntu-Co LoCo Team.

Canonical is making what they consider correct, Mozilla will do the same thing, Firefox is a Trademark. So, don't complaint about this advice.

A new name could be fine, and also cause we will make another "hit" on blogsphere "Announcing the new name of Ubuntulite!!!", etc.

But, what about work with Canonical, maybe like is working Xubuntu or Mythbuntu, they are not forced to keep the lines of Ubuntu and Kubuntu, their development is very independent. Using Ubuntulite.
Ubuntulite can bring new things to Ubuntu, LXDE desktop environment!!!
If we can make this we will have a lot of attention!!!

And, we can also use the name Ubuntu Lite Remix, but to use the Ubuntuname and an Ubuntu logo based, we most to fulfill that Ubuntulite is completely (or almost) using the official packages from repos and no commercial intents.

Maybe I can talk with one Canonical worker.. But I don't promise anything.

I'm working on that.

Perhaps, we are the community of Ubutulite, maybe small compared with others, but we are a community!!

or Ubu-Lite.
Ubu reminds of Pere Ubu, so it would be intriguing, but maybe U-Lite is more catchy on the ear.

U-lite?

Forget them, Linux existed before Canonical came into being and it'll be around after they are gone. Choose a name based on small or lite or something cute. Linlite is good, maybe a cat that Apple hasn't used, like Cheetah. Select the best and put it up to a vote. The name shouldn't take away from the product...

ubuntu lite remix is great. and you don't even need a lawyer.

as for the logo, just make it headless..

kind regards -botp

I like the name Ubuntu Lite Remix and like others wrote before me, with the word remix in the title everybody will see instantly it's a distro based on Ubuntu.
If you ask me i would chose Ubuntu Lite Remix it also has a nice abbreviation ULR :-D

Sorry, I don't include my name. I'm Jorge Manjarrez Lerma, IT Consultant and ubuntu user since 2004.

Hi.

One thing first, Who is Michelle?. Many people (include me) can say work in canonical... Anyware, fluxbuntu no doubt aware too. Microsoft uses practically the same logo in msnlive comunity and has no problem. I belive thath Canonical appreciate the efforts of others distros and developers to increase the canonical software market. I hope that canonical don't say the same words that microsoft. If this is the future, maybe change distro.

LFHB Lite (Linux For Humans Beings Lite).

Why not a name that means something

Most new names suggested lacks meaning.

If you like to stick with the original Ubuntu philosophy, why not use the same word in another language.

The Swedish word for Ubuntu is "medmänsklighet". (What? You thought it was an African only thing. Don't be silly. It's very close to a pre-christian nordic virtue and I'm pretty sure the concept existed in ancient Greece.) I would say there is a lot of obvious reasons as to why the Swedish word is not a good name. But there ought to be some other language that use a more catchy phrase (without problematic glyphs).

Even if a corresponding expression don't exist at all in English (sympathetical is perhaps the most similar and thats not very close), there is still a lot of other languages more expressive then English.

I know "medmänsklighet" or "ubuntu" is one of the key aspects of Emanuel Swedenborg's flavour of Christianity. He himself wrote most of his books in other languages then Swedish (mostly Latin) and they have been translated to a lot of other languages. (He's philosophy has never been popular in Sweden. It had it's first followers in Britain and it's first wide acceptence in Africa. Perhaps because the Ubuntu philosophy and a similar beliefs about afterlife already existed in Africa.) So there has to be some decent translation of the idea.

PS. The Swedish word "medmänsklighet" is usually translated to English as "brotherly" or "human". Thats kind of funny, because those two English words is usually translated as "broderlig" and "human" to Swedish.

What do you think about:
Linfast
Fastbuntu
Linquick
Quickbuntu ?

I agree that this distro should follow the naming convention of Mint Linux in that it should be markedly different from Ubuntu. Ubi kind of sounds like sour grapes. Why not go with something that emphasizes its small size and speed? Lightning Linux sounds good to me (you could do something like Lightnix). I love both Mint and Ubuntulite, and I'd hate to see something as silly as a name get in the way of a great distro. You could also go with LINU (LINU is not Ubuntu), just to piss off Canonical.

why dont call it utnubulite.

i think everybody will soo understand what it means, and you wont have problems with trademarks.

bye

archlinux user

Yeah.. you should comply. Let's face it, Ubuntu is a company after all and your distro as good as it may be can confuse a few users..

So, what should be the new name? Hmmm..

How about?
umlungu - white South Africa or Boss (Bass) of the company

Ok ok.. pick a name from here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_South_African_slang_words

How about "litenix" or "litemix", the former suggesting a play on Linux/UNIX, like many Linux distros used to prior to U :-) the latter playing on "remix".

Otherwise, just call it "U". That's what I call Ubuntu, but there's no reason why you can't take it.

The name that I recommend is Lite for U.
The meaning of U is Ubuntu and you.
You should raise the logo mark from many excellent participants.

Just play with the letters so that it looks like ubuntu, sounds like ubuntu, everybody knows that there's some relation, but also that it's not the same. Utunbu, Utumbu, things like that. I really don't think 'Remix' is a good option. 'Ubu' sounds simply stupid.

Good luck with that. By the way, maybe you would like to answer that email saying that you are in process of finding a new name, and that is going to take some time, but you will do it. Just so that they don't bother you for a few weeks/months.

Don't rush the choice. The worst thing you can do when you have "clients" is to change the brand name. But it would be even worse to change it to something just because you have to, and several months later change it again because you found a better name. So take your time, ask people how it sounds like,...

Good luck.
Ivan Perez.

I got here on your site because I saw the Ubuntu logo and the name, so I thought you were part of the Canonical group. Apparently, you are not, and I agree with the trademark lady that you should change your logo and your name so people that are looking for a _real_ derivate from the Canonical group can easily identify these by looking for the Ubuntu logo and name.
Compare with the case of Debian and Mepis; Mepis is an excellent distribution that really doesn't need to hitchhike the Debian name or logo; it is just doing fine on its own, while at the same time being Debian based.
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Good luck with finding a good name and logo. I haven't come across a pinkish - purple based logo yet...
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Marco Siebel

So if other "Ubuntus" got the same message, I think it's a good suggestion from Canonical to add the word Remix to their titles. So everyone will know it's based on Ubuntu but not an official version.
So I would like the name Ubuntu Lite Remix.

Hey why not make a poll with names on this site?

The sleeping giant awakens (Canonical’s trademark team.) Another custom buntu disto for the ASUS eeepc, ubuntu-eee, received an e-mail nearly identical to yours. ubuntu-eee.com

It makes me wonder how many more custom buntu distro’s also got this e-mail. Strange that they let these projects go on so long (hasn't ubntulite gone on for a few years former project leader's time included) without any action until now (even those with active launchpad accounts.) I wonder if they would consider an after the fact license to this project. Clearly this does not at all damage the ubuntu name. In fact it reflects a great deal of credit. Maybe if a disclaimer stating that this project is not endorsed by Canonical were included on the home page. See their trademark policy:

http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy

This is the “COMMUNITY” they talk so much about. It puzzles me why they are biting the hand that feeds them here.

Thanks for all of your hard work
(present, past, and future) on this project.

Shae,

I exhort you to consider using "UBU" as the new name.

And I suggest you grab it before someone else beats you to it for use in their own lite ubuntu version.

(Not because I thought of it, but because it embodies in the name itself exactly what you are striving to embody in this version of the OS! - a smaller, lighter version of UBUNTU - the essence is there, all you do is drop the "unt" out of the middle, much like you intend to drop all the heavier, unnecessary packages from the distro).

I predict this name will not last long untaken.

Whatever you decide to do...

Best Regards,

SpaceHasMass

I would throw open a contest in the forums for a new name. Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu but had no problem becoming popular even though the name "ubuntu" was not mentioned in it's title or logo.

On the Windows platform I use a utility called Total Commander. It used to be called Windows Commander until Microsoft complained...so it was renamed, and in the end, I like the new name better.

So I think this is also a challenge to find a new name that will be even better than the old one.

What about Ulite? I think is sounds not too bad.
Is very compact and just one word only, and you will keep the lite and U together. this is just my opinion.
I am electronic engeneer and I want your distribition to be very lite for using in VMware or VirtualBox for my DSP development.
I have tried also DeLi, Damn Small Linux, Fluxbuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Absolute Linux and TinyMe.
Until now I am using TinyMe, but your project is very interesting too.
Maybe one day I will switch to your creation :)

Good luck! :)